Topic: Request from Newsletter Staff

Attention artists!

As you may or may not have noticed, there's a certain newsletter coming out soon featuring a 5 Day Writing Challenge.

While we'll be very happy to receive any submissions as outlined on the page linked above, we're looking for something specific from the Graphics Department that we're hoping you might like to step up to the challenge on.

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Firefly has some interesting news flyers, no? We're hoping some of you might like to try your hand at creating a background specific to the firefly themed page to make it look like something out of the Firefly universe!

We are only in need of one such background image, sure, but if we receive multiple submissions the Newsletter staff will select the one we like best and the creator will get serious brownie points*. Like double fudge cheese swirl brownie points**. Oh and their art will be featured as the background for the Firefly-esq news flyer, so there's that too. Any totally awesome submissions that aren't chosen will get brownie points as well.  smile

Anyone interested in working on this please let us know asap. And like the 5 Day Challenge, here are the things we need for your submissions:

Submission Requirements

  • All submissions must be made by Saturday, October 26th and must be sent to [email protected]

  • Submissions may include a segmented body though should not place any restrictions on what text may appear in each area (e.g. we have blocks of text of up to 200 words and up to 40 words and we want to have some ability in deciding where they'll appear on the page for flexibility purposes in case we get a lot of one size or the other)

  • The body of the image (where the text will go) should allow for text to be easily laid over it (if the body has alternating colors and brightness then text color and brightness may make the text difficult to read)

  • The image should be 8.5" by 11" (or "pretty close") with portrait orientation

  • Please provide the name by which you'd like to be credited for your submission

Also we'd like to encourage you to include some Mandarin though it is not a requirement!

Thank you everyone!  big_smile

~Robert

*Brownie points must be redeemed in person. No, seriously - if we meet up IRL those brownie points are totally redeemable and I will definitely buy you a brownie! The presence of a nearby bakery which sells brownies isn't guaranteed though an effort to locate one is promised.  smile
**Quality of brownie not guaranteed though will likely contain a noticeable amount of sugar. Brownies may or may not be double fudge and/or cheese swirl.

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I don't even recall seeing news flyers in Firefly or Serenity. Is this the only example? Happen to have a link to video (or know which episode this is from)?

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It's the only one I'm aware of. And it's from the very first episode. Meaning the original 2 hour pilot. It's from like the first 10 or so minutes when Mal shows up with the Alliance foodstuffs and Badger reveals that he's no longer interested in the goods he sent them to get because of the Alliance seal on them and the fact that they were spotted and reported by an Alliance cruiser, at which point he shows that paper (which has moving images and texts and stuff on it iirc) which supposedly says something about "Firefly class ship spotted stealing alliance goods from a derelict vessel" or something to that effect.

~Robert

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I found a clip of the scene online, and Badger only holds up that page for a second or two - barely enough time to get a good look.

Also, I'm not really sure what you are looking for with this. The background is a pretty standard yellow. You say segmentation is allowed but it can't put restrictions on text placement, so I'm not sure how any segmentation isn't restrictive? You also mention adding Mandarin, but as this is a background, not the actual text, what purpose would that serve?

Maybe I'm missing something? Is the intention to only put the text in the middle of the page, and the artist has artistic license for text and images on the borders (and in the background of the middle)? I could probably whip up a pretty close mockup to that page in the image in about 2 minutes in PS, with all the various segments and places for titles/headlines/etc. But that would seriously limit your freedom of where to put things.

-Jason

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Jason Andersen wrote:

I found a clip of the scene online, and Badger only holds up that page for a second or two - barely enough time to get a good look.

Yeah I know. 100% accuracy is totally not expected here, plus who's to say this isn't just one of thousands? Anyways, the point is to have something that looks cool, not necessarily the thing shown in the image. Maybe I pushed in that direction, but the goal is cool firefly-looking page.  smile

Jason Andersen wrote:

I'm not really sure what you are looking for with this.

Despite some of the things I've done, I'm not terribly gifted with visual artistry so ultimately I'm looking for someone to create something that looks sort of futuristic technology as far as newsletters go with shapes and a color scheme, and a fancy header, etc.

A page has a background, sure, but I mean look at the picture of the paper Badger's holding up. The top portion where his finger is and the strip immediately beneath it are free game, those aren't spaces for articles and such. Beneath that, dead center, there's Mandarin flanking the article (that's coolness factor right there!), and there's a decorative heading above using circular arcs above and below what I assume is the article/section's title.

There's all sorts of intricacies that make it look cool. I guess what I'm looking for is "detail", the minute bits of fashion that makes the whole thing *pop* if you get my meaning. I can put a yellow rectangle on a page, and maybe throw a brown rectangle on top of that in a nifty position at a fancy size, but those arcs, the mandarin flanking the text, the words that are scrolling off the edge of the page, all of that is "detail".  big_smile

Jason Andersen wrote:

You say segmentation is allowed but it can't put restrictions on text placement, so I'm not sure how any segmentation isn't restrictive?

The key is no restrictions on "what text" goes there between the 3 different ones we're putting in. So creating a column that could fit a couple 200 word sections or several 40 word sections means we have the freedom to decide which bit of text goes where. I'm not worried about freedom over where on the page, that would be asking for plain and boring (as you note, it's just a yellow background). Go head and decide how the text fits in, just leave us room to decide whether it's several 40-word sections or 1-3 sections at 200 words each, if you get my meaning.

The reason is because we don't know what kind of volume we're going to get in terms of entries. We may get proportionally many 200 word short articles compared to the want ads and personals and so a newsletter that has several boxes sized specifically for want ads and personals would mean less room for all our lovely 200 word short articles. So the idea is not to restrict which types of articles we pop into various sections of the page. Columns that have no or few horizontal divisions within them means plenty of control on our end to put whichever text is convenient in whichever space we like, so that's one way to go about doing things. smile

Jason Andersen wrote:

You also mention adding Mandarin, but as this is a background, not the actual text, what purpose would that serve?

Just overall coolness and making it look more like a Firefly newsletter.  smile  And I mean like the Mandarin could be faded into the background, or written into margins, or what have you. Again, it's just coolness but the Mandarin is only a suggestion and isn't necessary by any means.



Jason Andersen wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something? Is the intention to only put the text in the middle of the page, and the artist has artistic license for text and images on the borders (and in the background of the middle)? I could probably whip up a pretty close mockup to that page in the image in about 2 minutes in PS, with all the various segments and places for titles/headlines/etc. But that would seriously limit your freedom of where to put things.

That's pretty much the idea, though I think ultimately we should be talking something like 80% of the page consists of blank space for me to insert the articles and such. So put in a header, feel free to give me fancy detail in a space where I can put an article title or the name of a section, etc., toss stuff in the margins, give me bits of text scrolling off the page, and yeah...that's kind of it in a nutshell. We're not trying to be very stingy, we're not using your artwork in the creation of a prop for a con, so as long as it looks good that's all we're looking for.  smile

Also I realize looking back that we're attaching our own footer, so an inch or so of blank space on the bottom would be nice (anything put there might get blocked out by the footer that's going in).

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What about us providing *elements* that you can move about and put wherever you want on the page? Like a few mandarin text graphics, some stretched cutoff headlines, some dark brown background blocks, maybe a few random graphics?

If several people submitted discrete elements, you could mix and match however you like.

It's too bad this isn't going on a web page, animated GIFs would work perfectly.

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Discrete elements are cool too. Thanks for the suggestion.  big_smile

~Robert

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If anyone has any "discrete elements" as Jason called it, we'd greatly appreciate them! There's still time to get them in as we put together the newsletter!  smile

~Robert

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I must confess I know nothing about Firefly and its universe* (it has never been broadcasted here in Italy except on a uncommon pay-tv channel in 2006) so I don't know how to help...  sad


*this is also the reason I don't play in Firefly-related sims...

"My faith protects me. My Kevlar helps" - (Jim Butcher)

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ksabers: http://www.amazon.it/Firefly-S1-Edizion … 0001B3YTM/

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Thank you Euan. It's the English edition and it's hard for me to understand it. I'll try it when I'll have some time.

"My faith protects me. My Kevlar helps" - (Jim Butcher)

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ksabers: http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearch … movie-3599

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Get ready for a treat Giorgio.

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Even without any knowledge of Firefly, one could simply recreate the elements in that screenshot. It would do just fine. smile

I don't think I'm going to have time tonight to do this, and likely not tomorrow either. Since the deadline was the 26th, I'm assuming you are looking for something faster. sad

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Ah, my bad - I was thinking the version on the Italian Amazon would be in Italian tongue Or at least have subtitles!

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I think almost all ex-Warsawa countries and south european countries use exclusely dubbing versus subtitles.

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Krista Bäckman wrote:

I think almost all ex-Warsawa countries and south european countries use exclusely dubbing versus subtitles.

I don't think they do. IIRC, Slovenia doesn't. The Netherlands and Denmark certainly don't. That said Italy and France are big enough territories to dub.

(There's a BBC Worldwide video out here of Doctor Who dubbed into five languages).

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Netherlands and Denmark are neither ex-Warsawa countries nor south european. Yugoslavia was probably an exception and I don't think they belonged to Warsawa Pact. At least not in the eighties.

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We're FAR off topic here, let's get back to any other graphics people can supply for the newsletter please.  smile

~Robert

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Still working on the newsletter, but I've got a smaller project for the newsletter that maybe someone can whip together in short time? There's about a week left before the newsletter goes out, but this is a very small and, I suspect, not a terribly demanding project.

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If you look closely at the corners of the page, there is an image that appears in dark colors on both sides. I'm not sure what the significance is, if any, but I think it would add a level of accuracy that I think might make it pretty cool.

In any event, I don't suspect making that specific image wouldn't be a very demanding project. Could someone head this up?

Thanks!

Edit: I'm just looking for the dark shapes, not the full corners of the page. Also the space inbetween each of the shapes should be 100% white or 100% transparent (either or, transparent would be preferable I suppose but far from necessary).

~Robert

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After some research I've turned up what precisely that image is and with MUCH more detail:

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It's the Alliance stamp we've seen imprinted on foodstuffs from the original 2-hour premier. Can anyone translate what the middle says?

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On finding this, it seems most of the work is already done. Just a bit of the left side is cut off so that needs to be added on, and then rather than perfectly square corners they could be rounded a bit (if you know what parts I mean).

~Robert

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Further research has led me to discover that the mandarin in the middle says literally "Alliance".

Also I apparently have an abundance of time because (since learning what the Mandarin in the middle said) this particular request is fulfilled as I've done the legwork myself.  lol

~Robert

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